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askjoe
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Posted: 2004-May-21 20:47
I'm building a roughly 10 page website for a local airport. Simple html pages, two form to email CGI scripts, and maybe a little bit java to make it a bit more 'multi media' in appearance?
My question is, how much should I charge to do this? This is my first 'commercial' website for anyone other than myself.
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bhartzer
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Joined: Jun 08, 2000
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Posted: 2004-May-21 21:18
Decide what your time is worth per hour ($10, $20, $100? more?) and then estimate how many hours it will take to complete the project. Then double it and ask for half up front.
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rackaid
Joined: Oct 27, 2003
# Posts: 87
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Posted: 2004-May-21 23:29
You need to estimate how much time it will take for each task:
Design
HTML Coding
Graphics
Advanced Programming
Client Consultation
Once you have numbers for each area then decide what you would charge per hour for each task. This will give you a good starting estimate.
The reason I break out the tasks is that you can find very good HTML programmers for $15.00-20.00/hr while someone programming in Java would earn closer to $60-80/hr.
How much experience do you have? This will determine if you are at the low or high end of the range. You should set your wage as if you were working for someone else.
Keep in mind you will be paying self-employment taxes. If you are employed, your employer usually covers about 6-8% of these (I think.)
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_ssen
Joined: May 25, 2004
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Posted: 2004-May-26 08:09
For the above project, $25 per hour sounds fair.
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cianuro
Joined: Jan 22, 2004
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Posted: 2004-May-30 20:06
"Decide what your time is worth per hour ($10, $20, $100? more?) and then estimate how many hours it will take to complete the project. Then double it and ask for half up front. "
EXCELLENT advice.
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Pongo
Joined: May 27, 2002
# Posts: 665
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Posted: 2004-Jun-11 00:17
Here is what I do if I decide to take on a project (very rare)
1K for an index page and 2 other (small pages)
I build the graphics and do all SEO... They come up with the generic text/content (I modify).
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mattfe
Joined: Oct 26, 2003
# Posts: 123
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Posted: 2004-Nov-04 00:07
The main issue is to make sure they know what they are going to get for the money.
I recently qouted on a site and the prospect said that he could get his nephew to do up a site ( I was not going to have complex java or complex graphics).
Sure i said, but does the nephew know about keywording, SEO, combining search engine and human friendly text, does he know good achor text from bad etc etc.
Boils down to being a value proposition.
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Sinoed
Joined: Dec 11, 2000
# Posts: 5266
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Posted: 2004-Nov-05 19:39
Ask for half up front
This is key. Make sure that they know you're serious about not wasting time - either yours or theirs. If you don't ask for some money upfront then your client has absolutely zero committment. You can work your butt off building a site, sink all of your time and energy into it and have them walk away - so you'll be stuck holding the bag.
The other thing to do if you're not sure how much to charge is to call businesses around your area and find out what their rates are. If you're a little more inexperienced, make sure that you are charging accordingly.
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chman0024
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Posted: 2004-Nov-06 18:18
How big is the airport?
Could that be a trophy site to go into your portfolio?
If a lot of people have heard of this airport then you bring up the fact that you made that site when bidding a new job for a another client.
You have to get a strong portfolio then you can really start charging some money.
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hidaguard
Joined: Feb 01, 2005
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Posted: 2005-Feb-01 20:19
If this is your first commercial site, I'd recommend going for a lower end bid just so you can have a pearl like this under your belt. (as _ssen said, about 20-25 an hour.) The most critical aspect, of course, is to do your absolute best for this client. I know that a webcompany I worked with previously (possibly again, who knows?) Charged nothing more than hosting cost for a couple of their first sites for big clients (smaller sites, mind you), just so they could have the recognition of having done the town's most popular radio station and chamber of commerce. From there, it's a snowball. The webdesigner, in general, charges about $65 per hour, which, for his level of expertise is pennies. I've learned that you sometimes have to work for practically nothing at first to see a big payoff later on.
The most critical key for getting started as a webdesigner is portfolio. If you can't show a client your work, they have no reason to believe your claims.
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