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puntyup
Joined: Mar 23, 2005
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Posted: 2005-Apr-01 07:53
I know that smaller is better, but does anyone have some
general guidelines on how large a web page should be to download fast
Anyone know of a website that has statistics on how long an average user will wait before clicking away.
I would guess there are still a good number of people using dial up.
how about photos any guidelines for max size in K bytes? It seems like noone uses progressive gifs anymore why is that?
Anyone have any tips or tricks they would like to share in this regard?
Thanks
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lizardz
Joined: Nov 12, 2004
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Posted: 2005-Apr-01 08:06
Smaller is better, use external CSS library files that will be cached by the browser.
Optimize all jpg's to the very lowest quality where it still looks ok, I've found that's around 60-65 on photoshop's jpg quality scale. There is almost no difference to the eye between a jpg of 65 and 75 quality, but there's a very large difference in file size. Progressive jpgs aren't used because they are bigger, and look weird while they load.
Minus the content, I'd say around 5 kB of HTML, including the navs, is a decent target. For pages with complex layouts, like this forum page, a bit more, maybe 7-10 at the most, that's just the HTML of course.
Using CSS and some other tricks, I took a page that took over 60 seconds to load on dialup and got it down to about 7-8 seconds for first page load, that's with the CSS, that's for the HTML to display, then whatever images are included load after, but the page is useable quite quickly. After the css loads, a few seconds per new page is good, I shoot for 1-2 over dialup, not including extra images.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2005-Apr-01 10:02
Yes, something around those figures would be good. Use external CSS and JS files. Optimise images.
Visitors often wait only 2 or 3 seconds before moving on.
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puntyup
Joined: Mar 23, 2005
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Posted: 2005-Apr-01 15:32
thanks for the tips, we have some photos that we would like to display kind of big, I will have to see what they look like as a 65% quality jpeg
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g1smd
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Posted: 2005-Apr-01 20:36
For that sort of site, you could easily supply very small sized low-resolution thumbnails that once clicked will then display at full size with full resolution.
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lizardz
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Posted: 2005-Apr-01 22:14
One thing to do to avoid the layout squirming around as images load is to always explicitly tell the browser what size the image that's coming is, that allows the browser to make the layout correctly, a lot of sites don't do this, and the page moves around as each image loads.
You can size images either directly in the img tag, or through css ids and classes.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2005-Apr-02 00:27
Good point!
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puntyup
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Posted: 2005-Apr-02 00:29
g1smd,
Yes I thought of that, but its not really a photo site per se, just product shots.
Lizardz,
thanks that's a good tip, I always wondered about all the sites that constantly have to readjust themselves as they load.
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